How Firearm Finishes Effect 1911 Feeding | 1911 Feeding (Ep.6)

December 13, 2022

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How Firearm Finishes Effect 1911 Feeding | 1911 Feeding (Ep.6)

Are you experiencing feeding issues with your refinished pistol? It's possible that the finish you applied is causing the problem. In this video, we'll delve into how different finishes can impact the feeding of your 1911 pistol.

Firearms Finishes:

How They Affect Feeding Performance In the 1911 Pistol

If you're a gun enthusiast, you know that the right finish can not only enhance the appearance of your 1911 pistol, but also improve its durability. However, it's important to understand that certain finishes can also impact the feeding of your weapon.

Imagine this scenario: you've just applied a beautiful cerakote finish to your 1911 pistol, and you can't wait to take it to the range. However, when you start shooting, you notice that the rounds aren't feeding properly. Frustrated and confused, you bring your gun to a gunsmith to see what's wrong. Upon inspection, the gunsmith discovers that the extractor hook is coated with excess cerakote, causing the rounds to get stuck.

This scenario may seem far-fetched, but it's actually not uncommon. Many gun owners don't realize the impact that finishes can have on the feeding of their firearm. That's why it's so important to understand the mechanics of your weapon and the potential effects of finishes on those mechanics.

Maintaining the proper functioning of your firearm is crucial for ensuring optimal performance at the range. One aspect that can significantly impact the performance of your weapon is the finish. There are various types of finishes available for firearms, including traditional bluing and modern options such as cerakote and nitrocarburizing. While these finishes can enhance the appearance and durability of your firearm, they can also affect the feeding of your weapon.

To ensure that your 1911 pistol is feeding properly, it's important to consider the following factors when applying a finish:

Re-tune or clean up mechanical parts: Any mechanical parts that were adjusted prior to the application of the finish should be re-tuned or cleaned up afterwards. This includes components such as the extractor, feed ramp, and barrel throat. These parts may have been fine-tuned for optimal performance prior to the application of the finish, and if they are not re-tuned or cleaned up after the finish is applied, they may not function properly.
Polish certain areas: To break in the finish and create a smooth surface for the rounds to feed on, it's a good idea to polish certain areas of the firearm. This may include the feed ramp, barrel throat, and breach face. By polishing these areas, you can create a smooth surface that allows bullets to feed more easily.
Remove excess finish from the extractor hook: The extractor hook is a vital component that is responsible for extracting spent cartridges from the chamber and feeding new rounds into the chamber. If it is coated with excess finish, it can cause the firearm to malfunction. Therefore, it's essential to remove any excess finish from the extractor hook to ensure proper feeding.

By following these steps, you can maintain the proper functioning of your firearm and avoid any issues with feeding. Don't let a faulty finish ruin your shooting experience - make sure to properly maintain your weapon and keep it in top working condition.

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okay folks finishes and how they will affect feeding [Music] hi folks Bob Serva from fusion firearms again what we're going to do is continue our feeding section today what we're going to do is go over finishes and how they affect your feeding there's some points you want to look at when when you're putting finishes on on your firearms mostly mechanical points and making sure that there is an excessive finish on that that those parts that were tuned prior to the finish are re-tuned again or at least cleaned up if not you'll run into trouble and this is something that a lot of people say well that's kind of an odd subject how can the finish affect my feeding well just a quick story that i've had people they'll buy one of our say reactions and i had a guy cerakote did a beautiful job sarah coating it all of a sudden we get a call my gun won't feed wow that's strange send it in so he sends it in we take a look at it well he cerakoted the extractor and they were the hook was full of cerakote gobs on it the feed ramp was all gobbed up with with paint and of course the bullet nose was just hitting it and had no polished surface left so it was just hitting and sticking in the paint you got to remember paint isn't real hard and it will end up giving you a stickier surface same with even nitro carburizing ion bond things of that nature everybody thinks oh these are these are all friction coefficients better than that maybe okay and why i say maybe is it's after it's been broken in a little bit i'm going to go over to some quick finishes and how i take care of it here because we see those problems we see that that people just like to have something finished they don't really understand the mechanics and then they don't understand why something doesn't work places like your your breach face your feed ramp your barrel chamber your barrel throw the extractor hook the side walls of the breech face all those areas come into play for your feeding most the time when you're seeing a nice tune 1911 you will see some finish worn off the breach phase you will see some finish off the extractor you'll see the finish off the feed ramp in the in the in the frame or the barrel and the barrel re-honed after finishing we we generally take into consideration well i got a i got a stainless barrel yeah but say somebody wants this nitro carburized they want the barrel black well when it comes back from from the nitro carb rising one thing you will see is there's a definite effect from the iron bond or nitro and you'll find that until the surface gets broken in a little bit it's sticky and what i call sticky is because the molecular structure that is on the surface has a crystal has a grain i've taken guns that 1911's have been shooting beautiful i have nitroed or i have it have ion bonded next thing it's not feeding right the finish is the only difference and then you'll find out that once you just polish that finish a little bit and what is polishing really doing you're using a felt bobbin just some light oil or you're using ultra fine pumice that's on there to to polish those areas but you can even use like the white scotch brite cloths the extra fine we have those available on our website you're going to take those areas and polish it i end up polishing the feed ramps always in the frames or on the barrels i end up polishing repolishing the the barrel throat and i actually end up honing the chamber again always do that because i find that things are a little sticky coming back from any of those plating operations other things i'll do is the breech face i've showed you guys how i just wrap a little piece of emery cloth right around a flat file an equaling file and i just take it and i just just polish out that breech face just very slightly same with the extractor hook if you end up with a whole mess of cerakote globbed in your extractor hook take that out take that out of there feed ramp nice polish job you had on the feed ramp all gone now it's all full of the the paint so what do you want to do you want to take that and again polish that back out off of there so you got back down to a really good frictional coefficient to perform better for your feeding all those things you want to take into consideration when you when you're having something refinished you got chrome you got some guys like nickel zinc but zinc really doesn't have a whole lot of application in in what we're doing chrome you're always going to build up on the edges i've had guns that are fit really tight and for frame to slide is really tight and when they come back from plating and i can hardly get to the frame on the slide anymore why because chrome will end up building up on the corners about five tenths or so on a corner if you got two corners here you got a thousands of build-up that's going to grow on those corners you got to learn how to deal with those things and either polish that back off slightly a little bit and just take care of those edges you can lap things some people just leave the guns a little bit let less tightly fit because they know there's gonna be chrome application on there even even when i do nitro carburizing i do iron bond anything one of the things i do is just a little bit of oil and i don't use lapping compound because i always do all my lapping and everything prior to setting it to finishing but you can use cool tool or you can use just hoppies or any type of oil like that and then once the the product comes back from nitro or whatever i'll take it just with some oil and i lap it back and forth and i'll actually like tension it one way or the other with my wrist as i'm doing it to make sure that that is is coming in and you can actually feel it and you can actually see a lot of particles of debris which is the crystal structure breaking down a little bit on the finish and you can actually wipe it off and see it in your fingers we see it on a rag and it obviously causes a negative effect of feeding a lot of times those points that you have a concern for feeding that we discussed those are places that you want to go back in and do a little bit of polishing look at those surfaces and and again it's expected that the extractor looks a little polished it's expected that the breech face looks a little polished that the the feed ramp and the the barrel throat looks polished and honed those are normal things when you tune your pistol for optimum performance so the nitro carb rising and iron bond even though they're both distinctly different processes which you can go into other videos that we've shot and they'll show you those processes more deeply of what they are and how they're applied even on those processes i still i take thousand grit emory cloth i go in there and i polish the breech face we repolish the extractors do a little buffing feed ramps all those things and the rails definitely polishing the rails and things so any of those parts that are going to become highly sensitive to your feeding of the firearm you want to take care of and look at most of spray-on bacon-type coatings are going to give you the most problems because of the the actual durometer of the material is softer than something like iron bond which is tungsten carbide or chrome chrome is 72 rockwell or higher than any of the paint spray on products you want to really be concerned and take a look at that and all your feeding points even more than than some of the others so all right guys i hope this helped you out appreciate you tuning in and we will see you again soon fusionfirearms.com

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